Wednesday, November 15, 2017

Being Controversial

More often than not, pretty much every season we see teams going for it, trading some of their better prospects for rentals in a so-called Win Now move, sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn`t, there are several ways it can go, for instance, the Royals and Cubs traded for Zobrist and Chapman respectively  on attempts to solidify already talented and playoff bound rosters, both of those deals turned out well for them, as both of those players became key components of WS winning teams, Royals in 15, Cubs in 16, what a lot of people forget is that in the Zobrist deal, Oakland got Sean Manaea and that in the Chapman deal, New York got Gleyber Torres, both now are highly valuable assets to their team (Torres is still remembered by a lot of people, considering he went to the Yankees and there was already a lot of buzz surrounding him, be that as it may, I`m sure no Cub nor Royal fan is complaining right now, why not because they won it, and in the end that`s what it`s all about, even if you come up in the short end of overall value in a trade, there are deals like the Carlos Gomez one which granted was more then just a rental as he was controllable over the following year as well, that deal stunk for HOU not only Carlos did nothing with HOU and eventually was released he cost them Brett Phillips, Domingo Santana, Adrian Houser and more importantly Josh Hader, promissing young pitcher, all the Astros have now is at the time throw in Mike Fiers an Avg arm, and last but not least there`s the deal I want to talk about, Yoenis Cespedes to the Mets.

At the time a rising young NY team was battling the Nats for the NL East title, doing it so with no hitting whatsoever their offense was awful until at July 31rst they went out and got one Yoenis Cespedes from the struggling Tigers, with Dombrowski halfway out the door he shipped the slugging OF to the Mets for Luis Cessa and Michael Fulmer, Yoenis went on a there in the second half, lead the Mets to the playoffs, where they beat the Dodgers, steamrolled the Cubs, but ultimately fell in 5 to the Royals, but the experience in NY was good enough to bring Cespedes back on a 4 year 110 Million Dollar deal, and it`s pretty clear that had he not been traded to the Mets, they probably wouldn`t have signed him, especially not at that value, so summarizing since them according to Baseball Reference he has compiled a 7.3 WAR total, while Fulmer estabilished himself in Detroit as a great SP, winning Rookie of the Year honors in 2016 and in just 2 years compiling an 8.5 WAR total, so here`s my argument if you clearly got the short end of the deal in talent, you didn`t win anything, i`d say Detroit clearlly won the deal, as much as you might argue well he changed the Mets hitting cullture gave them a big boost, i counter saying, since 15 NYM have done nothing, they went to one wildcard game in 16 and lost, their pitching has completely failed to live up to the expectations placed in that run, Noah and Jacob are the ones that stand out, and neither seems to be healthy over a full year, Matt Harvey all of a sudden stinks and Matz is well Matz, so the Mets could more than use Fulmer, he`d be right now one of their most reliable starters, so while i won`t fight you for arguing that run meant a lot to them and obviously it wouldn`t happen without him, right now i dare you to find anyone who cares that the NY Mets made the WS last year and gor cloberred by Kansas City, no Mets fan cares that much about that.

So while it`s very debatable, you can`t tell me the Cespedes deal was an irrefutable slam dunk trade for the Mets.

2 comments:

  1. Stupid article war is not a real stat mets had the same era in 2014 as 2015 yet they finished under 500 in 2014 so fulmer is useless . Tigers have not made the playoffs with fulmer and mets made the playoffs again in 2016 thanx to cespedes

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    1. there're so many ways in which that argument makes no sense that me arguing against it, would be pointless, what i'll say is this, if you're a Mets fan or not, and feel that his incredible contribution in that one playoff run outweigh the fact that now the surplus value on these 2 isn't even remotely close (all 30 General Managers'd take Fulmer over Cespedes in a heartbeat), good for you, but it wasn't the greatest trade of all time, and i myself would sacrifice one great run in which i got clobbered in the World Series to get or keep a significantly better asset, but that's just me

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